Many people grow up reading fantasy, but stop once it’s time to enter “the real world”. But then you realize the real world is boring and you want dragons and witches and magical stones yet it’s hard to know where to start.

In this episode, we share adult fantasy novels perfect if you want magic but don’t want to follow a teenager on an adventure.

For this episode, Demi sat down with author A.J. Peterson for a special LIVE recording at Wintercon in Portland, OR. We discuss why fantasy is great for providing hope and share a few of our favorite book for processing real world issues, pure escapism, and stories that helped us learn more about ourselves.

If you're in need of hope, this is the episode for you!